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	<title>Comments on: MBTA bag inspections at Davis Station</title>
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		<title>By: Jennifer</title>
		<link>http://www.somervillevoices.org/2009/01/02/public-health-safety/mbta-bag-inspections-at-davis-station/comment-page-1/#comment-11555</link>
		<dc:creator>Jennifer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Feb 2010 18:38:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>IT IS ILLEGAL to search and sieze and WE THE PEOPLE are allowing the slow progression of the police state to creep into power.  WE pay the MBTA to transport us, WE CAN REFUSE to use it if they continue to invade our privacy.  Like the cameras aren&#039;t enough of an invasion.  THEY ARE TESTING COMPLIANCE with the people.  DO NOT ALLOW yourselves to be violated this way so willingly because you have somewhere to go.  Give it a few years and you will see police presence everywhere.  It&#039;ll come much faster if you dont stand up now.  Hitler was a box of cupcakes compared to what the MBTA and FEMA have in store for the population!!!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>IT IS ILLEGAL to search and sieze and WE THE PEOPLE are allowing the slow progression of the police state to creep into power.  WE pay the MBTA to transport us, WE CAN REFUSE to use it if they continue to invade our privacy.  Like the cameras aren&#8217;t enough of an invasion.  THEY ARE TESTING COMPLIANCE with the people.  DO NOT ALLOW yourselves to be violated this way so willingly because you have somewhere to go.  Give it a few years and you will see police presence everywhere.  It&#8217;ll come much faster if you dont stand up now.  Hitler was a box of cupcakes compared to what the MBTA and FEMA have in store for the population!!!!!</p>
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		<title>By: anon</title>
		<link>http://www.somervillevoices.org/2009/01/02/public-health-safety/mbta-bag-inspections-at-davis-station/comment-page-1/#comment-7412</link>
		<dc:creator>anon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Apr 2009 02:44:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>fyi if you refuse at one station you are allegedly not (according to the officers) permitted entry at a different station.

in addition, if you refuse at one station, they may (and have(!)) signal to other stations to prevent you from entering, so plan on having access to a bike or cab fare.

thank you for the ACLU link; it&#039;s a shame the public service that drew me to this city is becoming such a headache and target for baseless fear mongering.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>fyi if you refuse at one station you are allegedly not (according to the officers) permitted entry at a different station.</p>
<p>in addition, if you refuse at one station, they may (and have(!)) signal to other stations to prevent you from entering, so plan on having access to a bike or cab fare.</p>
<p>thank you for the ACLU link; it&#8217;s a shame the public service that drew me to this city is becoming such a headache and target for baseless fear mongering.</p>
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		<title>By: Anh Nguyen</title>
		<link>http://www.somervillevoices.org/2009/01/02/public-health-safety/mbta-bag-inspections-at-davis-station/comment-page-1/#comment-7361</link>
		<dc:creator>Anh Nguyen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Apr 2009 12:31:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Here is information about your rights to refuse MBTA security search and consequences.
http://www.aclum.org/pdf/KnowYourRightsMBTA.pdf</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here is information about your rights to refuse MBTA security search and consequences.<br />
<a href="http://www.aclum.org/pdf/KnowYourRightsMBTA.pdf" rel="nofollow">http://www.aclum.org/pdf/KnowYourRightsMBTA.pdf</a></p>
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		<title>By: CommonSense</title>
		<link>http://www.somervillevoices.org/2009/01/02/public-health-safety/mbta-bag-inspections-at-davis-station/comment-page-1/#comment-6838</link>
		<dc:creator>CommonSense</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Jan 2009 20:33:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s quite clear that the Transit Police&#039;s Random Baggage Inspection program has been a succesful deterrent.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s quite clear that the Transit Police&#8217;s Random Baggage Inspection program has been a succesful deterrent.</p>
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		<title>By: Katie</title>
		<link>http://www.somervillevoices.org/2009/01/02/public-health-safety/mbta-bag-inspections-at-davis-station/comment-page-1/#comment-6835</link>
		<dc:creator>Katie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Jan 2009 08:18:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The number of terrorist attacks on the MBTA also equaled zero before they started the baggage inspection program.

&lt;i&gt;One officer at the table asked rhetorically why anyone would want to refuse.&lt;/i&gt;

Because I&#039;m running late, my train is about to leave and I am not carrying anything that will harm the MBTA or anyone on the MBTA.  Also you don&#039;t have a warrant, the T is a public entity and I have a monthly pass which entitles me to unlimited use of the T.

As for ethnic profiling, I can not think of any profile where they would have picked Barry to search except by using a random search.  Like search every fifth person.

I am tired of living in a country which does not value civil liberties anymore.

Okay there is my rant.  It is 3:30 am so I probably shouldn&#039;t be typing anything.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The number of terrorist attacks on the MBTA also equaled zero before they started the baggage inspection program.</p>
<p><i>One officer at the table asked rhetorically why anyone would want to refuse.</i></p>
<p>Because I&#8217;m running late, my train is about to leave and I am not carrying anything that will harm the MBTA or anyone on the MBTA.  Also you don&#8217;t have a warrant, the T is a public entity and I have a monthly pass which entitles me to unlimited use of the T.</p>
<p>As for ethnic profiling, I can not think of any profile where they would have picked Barry to search except by using a random search.  Like search every fifth person.</p>
<p>I am tired of living in a country which does not value civil liberties anymore.</p>
<p>Okay there is my rant.  It is 3:30 am so I probably shouldn&#8217;t be typing anything.</p>
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		<title>By: CommonSense</title>
		<link>http://www.somervillevoices.org/2009/01/02/public-health-safety/mbta-bag-inspections-at-davis-station/comment-page-1/#comment-6833</link>
		<dc:creator>CommonSense</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Jan 2009 15:29:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The T&#039;s baggage inspection program seems to be very effective.  The number of succesful terrorist attacks on the MBTA equals zero.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The T&#8217;s baggage inspection program seems to be very effective.  The number of succesful terrorist attacks on the MBTA equals zero.</p>
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		<title>By: Somervillian</title>
		<link>http://www.somervillevoices.org/2009/01/02/public-health-safety/mbta-bag-inspections-at-davis-station/comment-page-1/#comment-6830</link>
		<dc:creator>Somervillian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Jan 2009 16:01:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>They were doing searches today (Friday 1/9) at Porter Sq. I was going to refuse but I was not one of the chosen few. I object for a number of reasons:
1. ineffective - a real &quot;bad guy&quot; will simply access the T at another time or station
2. waste of money (see #1)
3. not fair since people are not checked at shopping malls, in their cars (the majority method of transportation in the US), on docks in the harbor, etc.
4. the police usually overreact - examples: someone on a plane complains about someone speaking Arabic. They check them out, they have no weapons, etc., yet they still pull them off the plane and never apologize or explain anything.
5. the previous day I had a nitropaste (2 % nitroglycerine) prescription in my briefcase. If that had set off the instruments, they probably would have shut down the station and carted me off instead of simply concluding it is was what the prescription label (see #5) said it was and I had the right to carry my legal presciption.
6. I&#039;ve worked with GCs and Mass Specs in the lab. There&#039;s no way these simple portable instruments can detect hundreds of volatile explosives in a second or two, at least not accurately and probably not at all.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>They were doing searches today (Friday 1/9) at Porter Sq. I was going to refuse but I was not one of the chosen few. I object for a number of reasons:<br />
1. ineffective &#8211; a real &#8220;bad guy&#8221; will simply access the T at another time or station<br />
2. waste of money (see #1)<br />
3. not fair since people are not checked at shopping malls, in their cars (the majority method of transportation in the US), on docks in the harbor, etc.<br />
4. the police usually overreact &#8211; examples: someone on a plane complains about someone speaking Arabic. They check them out, they have no weapons, etc., yet they still pull them off the plane and never apologize or explain anything.<br />
5. the previous day I had a nitropaste (2 % nitroglycerine) prescription in my briefcase. If that had set off the instruments, they probably would have shut down the station and carted me off instead of simply concluding it is was what the prescription label (see #5) said it was and I had the right to carry my legal presciption.<br />
6. I&#8217;ve worked with GCs and Mass Specs in the lab. There&#8217;s no way these simple portable instruments can detect hundreds of volatile explosives in a second or two, at least not accurately and probably not at all.</p>
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		<title>By: CommonSense</title>
		<link>http://www.somervillevoices.org/2009/01/02/public-health-safety/mbta-bag-inspections-at-davis-station/comment-page-1/#comment-6827</link>
		<dc:creator>CommonSense</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Jan 2009 14:57:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Are you joking?  You want the T to publicize when/where the inspections will be?!?!?  That would defeat the primary purpose of the program:  Keep the bad guys guessing!!  It amazes me how many people still JUST DONT GET IT.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Are you joking?  You want the T to publicize when/where the inspections will be?!?!?  That would defeat the primary purpose of the program:  Keep the bad guys guessing!!  It amazes me how many people still JUST DONT GET IT.</p>
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		<title>By: Ben Greenberg</title>
		<link>http://www.somervillevoices.org/2009/01/02/public-health-safety/mbta-bag-inspections-at-davis-station/comment-page-1/#comment-6822</link>
		<dc:creator>Ben Greenberg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Jan 2009 20:23:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I posted a comment over at the LJ post but thought I&#039;d add my 2 cents here, too. These searches are an ineffective waste of resources.

I share all of the concerns expressed by eila

I have a strong objection to such &quot;random&quot; searches not based on probable cause.

We all have biases and officers are prone to unintentionally profiling people of various ethnicities, ages, complexions, etc. Profiling based on race, gender, age or religion is UNCONSTITUTIONAL.

Submitting to these searches, which may include the inspection of the inside of one&#039;s bag, can lead to arrests for any other illegal possessions not included under the security rubric. In other words, submitting to the &quot;security search&quot; is effectively giving up your right refuse to be searched without a warrant.

These search stations condition us to accept violations of our civil liberties and all that entails, including the &quot;inconveniences&quot; which should not be part of a free society.

I would like repeat eila&#039;s recommendation of the &lt;strong&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.aclum.org/pdf/KnowYourRightsMBTA.pdf&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;ACLUM  Know Your Rights - Stops and Searches on the MBTA pamphlet&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/strong&gt; (PDF).

From the passage she cites, which states that &quot;Police cannot detain you or require you to answer questions simply because you refuse to have your bag tested&quot; says to me that the threat of arrest for &quot;trespassing&quot; if I assert my right to not be searched as a condition of riding the T is starkly unconstitutional. I find it highly offensive.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I posted a comment over at the LJ post but thought I&#8217;d add my 2 cents here, too. These searches are an ineffective waste of resources.</p>
<p>I share all of the concerns expressed by eila</p>
<p>I have a strong objection to such &#8220;random&#8221; searches not based on probable cause.</p>
<p>We all have biases and officers are prone to unintentionally profiling people of various ethnicities, ages, complexions, etc. Profiling based on race, gender, age or religion is UNCONSTITUTIONAL.</p>
<p>Submitting to these searches, which may include the inspection of the inside of one&#8217;s bag, can lead to arrests for any other illegal possessions not included under the security rubric. In other words, submitting to the &#8220;security search&#8221; is effectively giving up your right refuse to be searched without a warrant.</p>
<p>These search stations condition us to accept violations of our civil liberties and all that entails, including the &#8220;inconveniences&#8221; which should not be part of a free society.</p>
<p>I would like repeat eila&#8217;s recommendation of the <strong><a href="http://www.aclum.org/pdf/KnowYourRightsMBTA.pdf" rel="nofollow">ACLUM  Know Your Rights &#8211; Stops and Searches on the MBTA pamphlet</a></strong> (PDF).</p>
<p>From the passage she cites, which states that &#8220;Police cannot detain you or require you to answer questions simply because you refuse to have your bag tested&#8221; says to me that the threat of arrest for &#8220;trespassing&#8221; if I assert my right to not be searched as a condition of riding the T is starkly unconstitutional. I find it highly offensive.</p>
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		<title>By: eila</title>
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		<dc:creator>eila</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Jan 2009 00:45:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for your detailed description and thoughtful questions, Barry- and for the cross-posting at http://community.livejournal.com/davis_square/1590977.html
which has inspired many lively and smart comments.  

The ACLU has posted fact sheets, &quot;Know Your Rights- Stops and Searches on the MBTA&quot; at: http://www.aclum.org/pdf/KnowYourRightsMBTA.pdf

The fact sheet states, &quot;if you do not wish to be tested, MBTA policy says you may refuse and leave the T.  If you refuse to be tested, but enter the T anyway, you may be arrested and prosecuted for trespassing.&quot; The ACLU says that this is in contrast with our constitutional rights, which are explained as follows: &quot;Police cannot detain you or require you to answer questions simply because you refuse to have your bag tested.&quot;

Practical guidance is offered as well, including to state clearly that you do not consent to what the police are doing, and to not resist physically, run away, or bad-mouth the police.  In addition, anything they find on these warrentless searches may be used against us, so for people who carry medical supplies such as needles etc., it could be a dismal and time-consuming affair if the officer initially misconstrues the &quot;evidence&quot; and decides to widen the search.

I am especially concerned about 2 issues:  the continued targeting of &quot;looks like immigrant,&quot; and also the &quot;suspicious behavior&quot; databases.  The latter began with pilot program trainings (LAPD and other cities) labelling 65 specific behaviors  as suspicious.  This methodology is progressing towards a public education campaign called &quot;iWatch&quot; which will instruct citizens on specific behaviors to report to authorities-!  Along those lines, I think the &quot;Secure Flight/no-fly&quot; operation is about to kick in this month...

A Spanish &quot;MBTA know your rights&quot; information brochure is found at: http://www.aclum.org/pdf/Operation_Safe_Commute_SPANISH.pdf</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for your detailed description and thoughtful questions, Barry- and for the cross-posting at <a href="http://community.livejournal.com/davis_square/1590977.html" rel="nofollow">http://community.livejournal.com/davis_square/1590977.html</a><br />
which has inspired many lively and smart comments.  </p>
<p>The ACLU has posted fact sheets, &#8220;Know Your Rights- Stops and Searches on the MBTA&#8221; at: <a href="http://www.aclum.org/pdf/KnowYourRightsMBTA.pdf" rel="nofollow">http://www.aclum.org/pdf/KnowYourRightsMBTA.pdf</a></p>
<p>The fact sheet states, &#8220;if you do not wish to be tested, MBTA policy says you may refuse and leave the T.  If you refuse to be tested, but enter the T anyway, you may be arrested and prosecuted for trespassing.&#8221; The ACLU says that this is in contrast with our constitutional rights, which are explained as follows: &#8220;Police cannot detain you or require you to answer questions simply because you refuse to have your bag tested.&#8221;</p>
<p>Practical guidance is offered as well, including to state clearly that you do not consent to what the police are doing, and to not resist physically, run away, or bad-mouth the police.  In addition, anything they find on these warrentless searches may be used against us, so for people who carry medical supplies such as needles etc., it could be a dismal and time-consuming affair if the officer initially misconstrues the &#8220;evidence&#8221; and decides to widen the search.</p>
<p>I am especially concerned about 2 issues:  the continued targeting of &#8220;looks like immigrant,&#8221; and also the &#8220;suspicious behavior&#8221; databases.  The latter began with pilot program trainings (LAPD and other cities) labelling 65 specific behaviors  as suspicious.  This methodology is progressing towards a public education campaign called &#8220;iWatch&#8221; which will instruct citizens on specific behaviors to report to authorities-!  Along those lines, I think the &#8220;Secure Flight/no-fly&#8221; operation is about to kick in this month&#8230;</p>
<p>A Spanish &#8220;MBTA know your rights&#8221; information brochure is found at: <a href="http://www.aclum.org/pdf/Operation_Safe_Commute_SPANISH.pdf" rel="nofollow">http://www.aclum.org/pdf/Operation_Safe_Commute_SPANISH.pdf</a></p>
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