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		<title>By: http://dfischman.blogspot.com/</title>
		<link>http://www.somervillevoices.org/2008/12/03/politics/no-honeymoon/comment-page-1/#comment-2732</link>
		<dc:creator>http://dfischman.blogspot.com/</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Dec 2008 12:11:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Barry, you\&#039;re quite right, and this is the last in the series.  Folks who are interested can check out what I have to say about national politics from time to time at dfischman.blogspot.com.

Steve, that is a good statement of another idea.  I think I\&#039;ve made it clear why I disagree. \&#039;Nuff said.

Imux, it\&#039;s pretty clear you have no idea what progressives really think, or that we can have just as many differences of opinions as conservatives or rightists.  But just look at the discussion between Steve and me.  

So far, Obama IS just what I thought--and worried--we were getting.  I think it\&#039;s the job of progressives to push the country toward social justice, not just to elect the candidate who will do less harm and perhaps a little good.  Whether we\&#039;re quiet or raucous, or both, we cannot be silent.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Barry, you\&#8217;re quite right, and this is the last in the series.  Folks who are interested can check out what I have to say about national politics from time to time at dfischman.blogspot.com.</p>
<p>Steve, that is a good statement of another idea.  I think I\&#8217;ve made it clear why I disagree. \&#8217;Nuff said.</p>
<p>Imux, it\&#8217;s pretty clear you have no idea what progressives really think, or that we can have just as many differences of opinions as conservatives or rightists.  But just look at the discussion between Steve and me.  </p>
<p>So far, Obama IS just what I thought&#8211;and worried&#8211;we were getting.  I think it\&#8217;s the job of progressives to push the country toward social justice, not just to elect the candidate who will do less harm and perhaps a little good.  Whether we\&#8217;re quiet or raucous, or both, we cannot be silent.</p>
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		<title>By: Barry Rafkind</title>
		<link>http://www.somervillevoices.org/2008/12/03/politics/no-honeymoon/comment-page-1/#comment-2675</link>
		<dc:creator>Barry Rafkind</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Dec 2008 05:08:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Dennis, your frequent postings analyzing prez-elect Obama are great, but I think SV is not the appropriate venue for them. This blog is really meant for discussions about local, not national life.

By the way, you might be interested to know that the consolidation of executive power at the presidential level has been paralleled at the local level in our strong mayor form of government (although not quite to the same degree). Just check out the SV posts about Mayor Curtatone&#039;s &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.somervillevoices.org/?s=charter&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Charter Advisory Committee&lt;/a&gt;.

I hope you&#039;ll continue to engage in discussions about local issues here on Somerville Voices. Regards...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Dennis, your frequent postings analyzing prez-elect Obama are great, but I think SV is not the appropriate venue for them. This blog is really meant for discussions about local, not national life.</p>
<p>By the way, you might be interested to know that the consolidation of executive power at the presidential level has been paralleled at the local level in our strong mayor form of government (although not quite to the same degree). Just check out the SV posts about Mayor Curtatone&#8217;s <a href="http://www.somervillevoices.org/?s=charter" rel="nofollow">Charter Advisory Committee</a>.</p>
<p>I hope you&#8217;ll continue to engage in discussions about local issues here on Somerville Voices. Regards&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Imux</title>
		<link>http://www.somervillevoices.org/2008/12/03/politics/no-honeymoon/comment-page-1/#comment-2462</link>
		<dc:creator>Imux</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Dec 2008 01:59:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dennis, exactly. You need to keep hammering Obama and calling him out on all his promises or - more accurately - failed promises. Wherever and whenever he falls short of what he promised (even if only in your private Idaho) -- hammer down on him. Call him out at every opportuniy. He got elected with promises to do some pretty wacky things and if he doesn&#039;t come through then you really need to take gloves off. I&#039;m talking demonstrations, emailings, yelling/screaming.... the whole nine yards. Pretend he wants to cut down a willow tree - if that&#039;s what it takes to get the blood boiling.

He got elected in November - how come no changes yet anyway? He seems to be just a Clinton lackey.... is that what you progressives thought you were getting? 

Funny thing is we on the right seem to be willing to give the guy more of a chance than the left will. LOL.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dennis, exactly. You need to keep hammering Obama and calling him out on all his promises or &#8211; more accurately &#8211; failed promises. Wherever and whenever he falls short of what he promised (even if only in your private Idaho) &#8212; hammer down on him. Call him out at every opportuniy. He got elected with promises to do some pretty wacky things and if he doesn&#8217;t come through then you really need to take gloves off. I&#8217;m talking demonstrations, emailings, yelling/screaming&#8230;. the whole nine yards. Pretend he wants to cut down a willow tree &#8211; if that&#8217;s what it takes to get the blood boiling.</p>
<p>He got elected in November &#8211; how come no changes yet anyway? He seems to be just a Clinton lackey&#8230;. is that what you progressives thought you were getting? </p>
<p>Funny thing is we on the right seem to be willing to give the guy more of a chance than the left will. LOL.</p>
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		<title>By: Steve Roix</title>
		<link>http://www.somervillevoices.org/2008/12/03/politics/no-honeymoon/comment-page-1/#comment-2213</link>
		<dc:creator>Steve Roix</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Dec 2008 20:24:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dennis:

Here&#039;s another idea, it&#039;s called &lt;a href=&quot;http://gristmill.grist.org/story/2008/12/3/13438/3587&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;
backoff.org&lt;/a&gt;.

Regards,
Steve</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dennis:</p>
<p>Here&#8217;s another idea, it&#8217;s called <a href="http://gristmill.grist.org/story/2008/12/3/13438/3587" rel="nofollow"><br />
backoff.org</a>.</p>
<p>Regards,<br />
Steve</p>
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